Drama Over Music Video Ignites Argument About What Anime Is

By Cecilia D'Anastasio on at

Yesterday, acclaimed American electronic musician Porter Robinson released an anime. Shelter is the short and tender story of a girl living alone in virtual reality, rendered by Japanese animation studio A-1 Pictures, that has received overwhelming praise over the last 24 hours. And, after its swift removal from Reddit’s 420,000-strong anime subreddit, Shelter has also become the latest peg in the debate over what actually defines “anime”— a debate that has apparently resulted in death threats to the /r/anime moderators.

Robinson, 24, is from North Carolina and, in 2016, was named MTVu artist of the year. Shelter’s co-producer, Madeon, is from France. Next month, they’ll be performing at New York’s Madison Square Garden. Since Robinson’s 2010 debut, he’s become somewhat of a sensation, particularly among American otaku. Robinson draws heavily from J-pop, sampling vocaloid-inspired female vocals in his dreamy electronic tracks. In an interview with Popspoken, Robinson told reporter Skii Chung that his brother, now a video producer at Polygon, got him into video games and anime at a young age. Dance Dance Revolution’s bubble-gummy sounds were a big influence for him.

Robinson and Madeon spent much of 2016 writing, producing and making music for Shelter, a stunning anime-inspired music video for his eponymous single, which Rolling Stone described as “silky electro-pop.” In it, a pink-haired girl with wide, pink eyes navigates a virtual reality that her father made for her. She’s alone in the simulation, but can download her every thought into it and make it real. Of course, Robinson and Madeon didn’t make it by themselve—a team of Japanese artists and animators at A-1 Pictures, which produced hit anime Sword Art Online and Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic, designed Shelter. One of the biggest anime studios, Aniplex, claims A-1 Pictures as a subsidiary.

None of this impressed the moderators of /r/anime. After the video’s 2 p.m. release on YouTube and anime streaming service Crunchyroll, Redditor Abel Toy posted it to /r/anime. It was immediately upvoted to the top at a rate of 98%.

/r/anime is a well-moderated subreddit where spoilers rarely see the light of day, hentai is promptly removed and current anime is discussed in episode-specific threads. Over a dozen rules maintain ordered conversation on a topic that, often, is discussed in excited screams. Number one on the list of rules is that “Everything posted here must be anime specific.” Moderators clarify on a wiki that all discussion must be “strictly about what we consider ‘Anime,’” which they define as “an animated series, produced and aired in Japan, intended for a Japanese audience.”

“Anime,” they assert, is not a “style” of illustration or animation.

Drama Over Music Video Ignites Argument About What Anime Is

Shelter disappeared from the top of the megaforum a mere hour after it was posted. When it was reposted, it was swiftly deleted again. Moderators had made an automated bot to remove every post that included the words “Shelter” or “Porter Robinson.” In an AutoModerator post sent to /r/anime veteran Krazymouse, he was told that the moderators “do not consider music videos produced by animation studios to be anime specific.”

When Robinson found out about Shelter’s deletion from one of the largest anime forums on the net, he posted on Twitter that he was “heartbroken.” Fans of his, alongside /r/anime subscribers and lurkers, were furious. The post had received hundreds of comments of praise. It sure looked like anime: big eyes, colorful hair, small mouths. And, yeah, it was produced in Japan. What was the issue?

“This is a music video by an artist that contracted out a studio that happens to also produce anime. If A-1 was contracted to produce episode of Spongebob, we wouldn’t allow that either,” a /r/anime moderator explained.


Robinson and Madeon produced Shelter. But Shelter’s Art Director, Yusuke Takeda, was also the Art Director for three Berserk movies, several Ghost in the Shell movies, Sword Art Online I and II and Gankutsuou, which is a beyond-stunning anime. Megumi Kouno, a key animator for Idolm@aster and freelancer with A-1 Pictures, directed the character design drawing. Storyboard Animation Director Toshifumi Akai was the Chief Animation Director on Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic. The list goes on.

Also, Shelter debuted in Shibuya, Tokyo to a live audience on a digital billboard. A-1 Pictures President Tomonori Ochikoshi told Crunchyroll that “Porter is extremely knowledgeable about Japanese animation and he inspired us with his expectations for what he could create with us. The resulting collaboration is a work that A-1 can be proud of.” Robinson and his fans couldn’t understand what about Shelter made it less anime than, say, a Studio Ghibli film.

Drama Over Music Video Ignites Argument About What Anime Is

When I asked Miyazaki International College anthropologist Debra Occhi whether she thought Shelter is anime, curious, she posed the question to her six anthropology seminar students. Four of six said Shelter is anime because, in her words, “The Japanese style of drawing and language did matter, more than ethnicity of creators . . . and yet it was important that most of them were Japanese,” adding that “The song being by a non-Japanese doesn’t matter.” Two said that, because they’re not all Japanese, it’s not an anime.

Occhi argues that it is an anime, since it has the “Japanese visual sense and narrative style,” along with a stacked production staff of Japanese natives. Shelter’s floaty hair, wide eyes and pointed chins, as well as its roots in Japan, make its status as anime a no-brainer.

Duke University cultural anthropologist Patrick Galbraith, who studies otaku culture, agreed with Occhi when reached for comment:

“A-1 Pictures has done some fine work in the past, work that moved us and is burned into the collective memory. For some fans, seeing the images without the stories they love, and in a music video targeting people outside of the community no less, might offend them on a deeply personal level. That is not my anime. But it makes me smile to see A-1 and anime turning heads and, potentially, bringing in new people. I would hope that people like to share. That is not my anime, yes, but it is our anime.”

Last year, Kotaku East’s Brian Ashcraft addressed the topic of what constitutes anime. The word “anime,” he writes, only caught on in Japan in the ‘70s. He cites Astro Boy, a landmark Japanese cartoon aired in the early ‘60s, as a genre-definer, even though its look was influenced by Walt Disney. “’Anime,’ Ashcraft writes, “became a brilliant branding—a way to separate Japanese cartoons from cartoons in the rest of the world. . . Warranted or not, “anime” became a way to make the country’s cartoons appear different.” But he adds that some “anime” studios, like Studio Ghibli, steer clear of the word “anime” in favour of “film” or “work,” since the term is so charged. “Anime,” he says, now refers to a style of animation—a style that Shelter boasts without a doubt.

Drama Over Music Video Ignites Argument About What Anime Is

Like in English, the word in Japanese can refer to a style or a motif. Though, Ashcraft adds that “Japan doesn’t have a monopoly on giant animated eyes.”

The /r/anime moderators might disagree. Reached for comment, Neito, who has moderated the subreddit for 10 years, said, “While Shelter was animated by an anime studio, it was produced by Americans (Mr. Robinson and his label). This rendered it separate from co-productions (such as the upcoming Toonami/Production I.G. co-production of FLCL, where each side is an equally powerful creative force) and exactly like a traditional commissioned work, such as how Batman: the Animated Series was animated by Sunrise (more traditionally known for the Gundam and Code Geass series).” He maintains that the /r/anime moderators weren’t judging Shelter to be bad. “Anime” isn’t a marker of quality.

“We were simply saying ‘This belongs elsewhere,’ like if you posted about classical music in /r/gaming,” he added. You can read his full comment to Kotaku here.

Drama Over Music Video Ignites Argument About What Anime Is

Neito still maintains that he and his fellow moderators were right to remove the post. But just one hour afterwards, the post was reinstated. Their hands were, in a sense, forced: Rabid /r/anime subscribers sent death threats to the mods. Angry fans leaked the name of the moderator who had deleted the post. Harassment escalated, allegedly reaching the point of death threats. Despite their firm belief that Shelter is not anime, they calculated that safety was more important than principles.

Several /r/anime subscribers were furious that the debate allegedly escalated to death threats.

Today, Shelter remains at the top of /r/anime with 5,100 upvotes. Fans have been translating portions of it and discussing Shelter’s themes of virtual reality and fatherhood. Yesterday, the top comments were quips against the moderators’ unilateral decision about what anime is. Today, the top comments are about how Shelter made them cry.